Thread:Killer kev/@comment-25386613-20180818021322/@comment-25386613-20180910170722

So I've address the comments above, but in doing so, I have more questions, so there's a lot more text below than I initially intended.

I see. I mistook your earlier comment.
 * "Probably just gonna merge the RD minor character pages (S1 and S2) and make one for Sabrina as well. Or not. Nothing's been decided."

Follow up question, at what point do you consider a character recurring if they are minor or guest appearing? If a minor character has appeared 3 or more times? I've seen other communities with more stringent 'rule' like 5+, etc. But I don't think it's strictly defined here, or at least I didn't see it defined on the category page. Can something definitive be defined there, or can you point me to where it is defined?

I've seen it done both ways, sections by episodes and sections by the character, and among others. I prefer the latter because I feel like searching by episode is easier than specifically searching for a minor by name (or description) but it's all in how you want to organize and write the summary(ies). I also thought that, by episodes, it would be more consistent since most everything else is done that way, but a minor character page doesn't really conform to a 'standard practice' as say characters or episodes would across other communities (as references). Are there aspects of a format style you're drawing upon from another community for the revamp? At least for my comparison searches, I've viewed the communities where I edit and like to read from and as well as just whatever google search brought up from searching "wikia + season one (or 1) minor characters" or variants thereof. There's some pretty unique ones like for example this one (or this one), whereas I see this example adopted the format from here.

I see where you're coming from, but I do feel like that it's defeating the purpose and intention of having a minor character page. I would think being credited versus not, is relevancy enough but that's my own opinion. I mean at least a sentence or two can be written as a minor summary (where I think an infobox creates unnecessary space). Also, counter-productive in the sense that there's no such details for a collaborative guide to the extensive universe and I was more or less meaning that those that were deemed "relevant" gained an infobox, yet the infobox takes up way more space than most of the summaries. I'm going to assume those two are examples from an episode or two? I'm not sure if you're being literal or just making a point, but I'll assume they're real. But stemming from that example, it's like with Young Serpent... he's relevant for being a serpent (given Jughead his jacket and "having his back", etc., but he's not even a named character and hasn't appeared since), whereas Vic is named but other than selling a Christmas tree to Cheryl (and sleeping with Penelope for her Courtesan story-plot), I'd personally don't see his (or say the Club Manager, or even Young Serpent) relevance. However, if a summary can be written for those characters then how is that any more of a wasted time than a simple sentence of the others? Anyone can argue the relevance (either for or against) but as minor character their purpose is only to push along any given scene not the entirety of the plot and what one may view as irrelevant, to another it may be. Personally, I feel like it's an all or nothing kinda situation since they are in fact credited characters (whether named or not) and something like relevancy shouldn't be attributed to them (locations, objects, groups --sure). If that is not the case, then how does one identify something that just not been added like from S1 versus what you deem relevant and is chosen not to be added? Because for S1 there's only 4 minor characters when there are others.

So for Example: Sister Woodhouse has appeared at least 3 times and she's been relevant to move Cheryl and Chic's (his identity, anyways) story along, is she subject to be added to the minor character page or a page of her own? Or say Ms. Weiss who provided Betty with information with Charles (who then took it to Mrs. Woodhouse) (she also appeared in S1 too about Jughead's foster(?) parents when FP was arrested).

Is this something that needs addressing on a per character basis? That seems tedious in itself. I mean Byrdie was added and removed and added back for S2. Cassidy Bullick has his own page and likely should be merged to S2 but he's likely to be referenced a lot given his death and Archie's murder trial, but I wouldn't wager that he'd appear again (unless its something like Jason Blossom's appearances throughout S1).

Once a format has been chosen, I'll help write summaries for the missing minor characters and likely moreso for Sabrina so I thought I'd attempt to get some of these things addressed now since we're right about a month before RD's S3 premiere.

Also point of clarification, why does Farmer McGinty (Tony Todd guest starring) not have his own page like other guest stars and included as a "minor character". I mean he advanced the "Riverdale Reaper" storyline --should there be an editor's note explaining this or is it an oversight? Does the info need to be removed and added on a separate page?

I've adopted this sentiment going into Legacies (reduces cleanup after the fact), but I thought I'd still ask. I think I'd be more inclined to do it if he's a Guest Character but that doesn't appear to be the case. So to keep to a sort of 'unspoken' standard, I'll wait to create the articles (since there's not a released like with the others), I may just update the season one page with the actor and character name with sources (and no [dead] links) under supporting. Once the show premieres then I can add them.